Date sent: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 13:57:37 -0400 From: Sodom <sodom@ma.ultranet.com> To: virus@lucifer.com Subject: Re: virus: Virian Saints Send reply to: virus@lucifer.com
> I think we should probably limit nominations to 1 or 2 each in the
> beginning - if only to limit the amount of research we will need to do on
> everyone.
>
> Love the second idea, obviously there are many writers/artists who
> contributed to the wealth of culture and thought deliberately, and your
> list has a bunch. What do we call those who are artistically gifted and
> contribute?
>
Meritorious meme-crafters?
>
> Bill Roh
>
> "Joe E. Dees" wrote:
>
> > I nominate Shannon & Weaver (who pioneered information
> > theory), Von Neumann for many reasons (game theory, theory of
> > self-replicationg systems, etc.), Charles Turing (for his
> > test), Charles Sanders Peirce, Ferdinand de Saussure and A. J.
> > Greimas (who provided the structural underpinnings (semiotics) for
> > the functional metaphor (memetics) - lesser lights include Louis
> > Hjelmslev, Charles Morris, Thomas Sebeok, John Deely and
> > Umberto Eco), and Maurice Merleau-Ponty, who described the root
> > human situation of phenomenological ambiguity which permits the
> > existence and appropriation of multiple stable but mutually
> > exclusive memeplexes.
> > I also support the creation of a separate pantheon of fiction
> > writers such as Aldous Huxley, George Orwell, Herman Hesse,
> > Stanislav Lem, Franz Kafka, Herman Melville, Mark Twain, Anthony
> > Burgess, Vladimir Nabokov, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Jose Luis
> > Borges, John Barth, James Joyce, Jerzy Kosinski, Thomas
> > Pynchon, Don DeLillo, Salman Rushdie, J. D. Salinger and Nikolai
> > Gogol, as literary uncles (feel free to add to this list).
>
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