Re: virus: Will and Force ?

Joe E. Dees (
Thu, 20 May 1999 14:55:37 -0500

From:           	"Jim" <>
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Subject:        	virus: Will and Force ?
Date sent:      	Thu, 20 May 1999 09:57:41 -0500
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> Joe Wrote:
> >I have looked around, and have a good idea of the relative
> >intellectual calibre requirements of the varying degrees as well as
> >personal knowledge of the abilities of those pursuing them. Those
> >with education or social work degrees are not generally your GRE
> >score stars - simple fact. Why the defensiveness; this wouldn't
> >happen to be YOUR degree, would it, O Prestidigitating Sleight-of-
> >Offhand Remark Legerdermainer?
> Not defensiveness, wanted to know why you have a low opinion of those who
> chose to advance society in their own way. And also you presented a
> opportunity to learn and profit.
I know, I shouldn't take that the Desiderata says, even the dull and ignorant have their story.
> >As to claims of snide and
> >supercilious loquacity, YOU'RE the one self-contradictorally
> >greasing your pockets by getting your antidrug screed fronted by a
> >worldwide producer and advertiser of of caffeinated colas to the
> >young (was it Coke or Pepsi again? I know; it may be a drug, but
> >it's YOUR drug, and that makes all the difference to you). Go
> >ahead and bray kettle, you hypocritical pot. You can put up with
> >me or not, but I'll tell you exactly where you can put it!
> Well Joe I do have to correct you here it is not anti drug it is a lecture
> on the psychological manipulation used by advertisers. It was Coke doing the
> sponsoring and they will no longer. After the initial questions about the
> program and the sponsor I also considered it not proper. So the state is
> considering sponsorship. As for the profit I make let me assure you that
> because this is a project I personally believe will have a positive effect
> my fee is approximately one fifth of what it should be. I make my money at
> other venues.
I am glad to hear that you removed the self-contradiction between the message content and the bankroller's identity from your program, and am now much more comfortable with it. I have no objection to profit per se, only to manipulative, deceptive, dishonest or hypocritical methods to pursue and obtain it. As you have removed those objections, I no longer have a problem with your presentation. I will, however, note that when I first brought the possibility of hypocrisy up you defensively jumped on me with both feet, and did not subsequently inform me of your sponsorship change.
> Jim Callahan
> Creator of Applied Thought Technologies