Re: virus: maxims and ground rules and suppositions

Rhonda Chapman (
Mon, 17 May 1999 21:04:16 -0700

Monday, May 17, 1999 6:54 PM psypher wrote:

>...If we purport to be a church [and apparently we do] then we must
>have some basis for making moral [value] judgements. What is it?

Hmmm, the very words "moral [value] judgements" leave me just a bit uncomfortable. There is an implication that we as a group have the power to define some standard of right and wrong, good versus evil, etc.

It is my belief that a lot of our good/bad/should thinking is a product of religion. Puritanical religions to be more specific. In taking the stance of I/you/we/he/it "should" do thus and such, there is always an intended element of control. Whether this is directed towards the masses or oneself.

Although any and all of us make our personal judgments, I don't believe there is any true "right" or "wrong". In most cases, the circumstances create the "reality" for the individuals involved. Over simplification, at the very least, reduces the potential for learning and growth.

I view the CoV as predominantly a forum for higher learning and enlightenment. To take a black and white right versus wrong position is one of reduced effectiveness. It diminishes our ability to reason. Too strict a behavioral code is often the death of free thought.

>...Consciousness IS the fact. Without consciousness to give it shape
>the universe has no form. Without intent to give it motive, the
>universe has no change.

With this I agree completely.