Re: virus: maxims and ground rules and suppositions

Joe E. Dees (
Mon, 17 May 1999 21:04:22 -0500

From:           	"psypher" <>
Subject:        	Re: virus: maxims and ground rules and suppositions
Date sent:      	Mon, 17 May 1999 21:54:12 -0400 (EDT)
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> > In the line
> > "To the extent that there is an environment in which change
> happens,
> > that environment is defined by consciousness."
> >
> > what does this mean? That there is no change without consciousness?
> > That the universe is static except for the consciousness that causes
> > change to happen and time to flow? Is that what you are suggesting?
> ...the universe is neither static nor dynamic - the very division is
> a construct. The universe IS - it is all things, at once, chaos: the
> sum of all possible orders. Time is not a ground in which the
> universe sits, it is a ground in which WE sit, and we - from this
> vantage - can't see past that limit. Of course there is no change
> without consciousness - there's nothing to change. Consciousness
> [will] is not a product of evolution, it's a precursor to incarnate
> existence.
> -psypher
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