Re: virus: Faith and Works

James Veverka (
Sat, 8 May 1999 21:14:30 -0400 (EDT)

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Snow Leopard!

It doesn't make sense???? To You! A parent caring after a child is grown. What is so strange about that? Humanity is consumed with ways to be social; family circles are the foundation of this sociability. Nature has evolved humans with a great capacity for intimate connectedness to family members, individuals and groups. This is a very important survival trait that gives our communities and families continued cohesion. Certain Mediterranean and Oriental societies have very strong family histories.

It is IN OUR NATURE to love people and bond to groups. It DOES make sense in the world of evolutionary fitness. Lifelong , deep loving families has a major impact on our survivability and success as a species. It certainly has relevance to our postion on the food chain.

Think about it. It is much simpler to actually seek the truth than to give up and resort to spells and meanderings from ancient writings. It keeps you in the dark.

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Subject: Re: virus: Faith and Works
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>Dear Snow Leopard,
>Glad to have you (plural) back! I am always interested in talking
>with a sincere Christian. I just finished reading "The Screwtape
>Letters" by C.S. Lewis, and I certainly found them to be very
>enlightening. It's pretty obvious that the book is written to be
>pro-Christian, and doesn't seriously represent the position of the
>Devil well, but I found it a fascinating looking glass into Christian
>idealism. I recommend it.

I (Joy) have already read it, and Nathan plans on reading it as soon as exams are over. Rose read it many years ago... we're familiar.

Have you read any of C.S. Lewis' other works? If so, you must be aware that accuracy is not his objective. He's mocking "the devil" and he's teaching. He's teaching, and that's the point.

<<>I really don't want to fight an individual. It feels like crud. On
>this list, I can take a good stab at you NOTHING-worshippers, with
>full knowledge that there are enough atheists to respond with a decent

>Nobody here fights against individuals. We fight against the memes
>(or Virus's of the Mind) that some individuals have. We are not
>"throwing stones" and making ad-hominum arguments but rather critising
>ideas, and seeking the truth.

I disagree. I'm defending Christianity. Yes, that's Christianity with a "C" the xtians thing really bothers me. I see it on the same level as a racial slur. You send messages "disproving" bits of it. If I don't respond, that will stand as truth in the minds of your readers. In essanse, I'm in competiton with you. You'd probably see it as yourself producing interferons... whatever.

>[1] I'm using the NIV. Hope you don't mind.
>[2] Indeed, I've never even understood worship, either in practice or
>theory. Just why should any god even care what we grasshoppers think
>of it? Does it bring the Almighty pleasure to see us grovel and
>declare ourselves unworthy? But this is just my age old question --
>what is the meaning of God's life?

It doesn't make sense. Neither does a child playing with a gigapet. Neither does a parent caing after a child is grown. Don't ask me! I'm only worthy through Christ.

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