>Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:16:41 -0500
>From: "joe dees" <joedees@bellsouth.net>
>Subject: Re:virus: Nothing
>
>To cite is not to cower behind. Do you see farther
>because you stand on the shoulders of those giants
>who came before you, or cower behind those
>shoulders and see nothing but the asses of armpits?
As you related before, it depends entirely on how you use the tool of citation. You were saying "Not only do I hold this statement to be meaningless, but so does my powerful buddy Dan." My reply is:
"You don't have a clue what Dan thinks."
"Look, you don't have any special access to Truth. If you keep saying all these silly things then you should expect the rest of us to resist you every step of the way. And don't think violence will deter us...just becuase we are rational doesn't mean we won't do whatever it takes to preserve freedom of expression. Our lives and liberty are less important to us that the well being of the collective. Oh, and don't think that you have some special right to preserve the ways of your father by imposing them upon your children. We are all in this together, and they are our children, also, to love, protect, and teach as best we can."
Like I said, he is one bad ass philosopher.
>If everything were a koan, equally nothing would
Richard has already countered that argument. We are
all human, does this make the word "human" meaningless?
>be, for the very word "koan" would lose all definitive
>power (and yes, I am "cowering behind" Merleau-Ponty's
>criticism of Sartre's concept of absolute freedom by
>applying its form to the content of your contention).
Right?
>whether or not you have the necessary cognitive abilities to
Good. So very true. Feedback is critical to each of us. To be
isolated from the collective is the road to madness.
>A=True
That's an assertion, not a proof. It is
inappropriate to say QED unless you establish
a statement based on a set of premises. To do
that, you have to take a step back and show
the premises:
Those are the premises.
I assert:
If ~A, ~B then either C or ~C
Look, this abstract shit is boring me. I do
it at work all the time, could we talk about
people instead?
>realize it. Others will realize it for you.
>B=False
>C=Meaningless
>
>If A, B or C and if ~A and ~B, then C.
>Q.E.D.
If A then ~B
If B then ~A
If C then ~A, ~B
If A then ~C
If B then ~C
>>You do understand! That was great!
>
>I have understood for quite a while now;
>the contention is about the things you do
>not yet understand.
Cool. What are they?
>>The isn't over yet, is it? I still warming up.
>
>Not until you submit or quit.
"You can't win, Darth. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can
possibly imagine." -Obi Wan Kenobi "Star Wars" George Lucas
Reed
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