Re:RE: virus: Reality (ref's to

joe dees (
Tue, 09 Feb 1999 05:23:16 -0500

At Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:44:17 -0800, you wrote:
>Man, another Level-3er joining the list. Is this snowballing or what?
>Richard Brodie
>Author, "Virus of the Mind: The New Science of the Meme"
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: []On Behalf
>Of Craig Dolan-Betney
>Sent: Monday, February 8, 1999 7:50 PM
>Subject: virus: Reality (ref's to "truth at all costs" + "GBoA"
>Please be patient as this is my first time.
>It seems to me that everyone has their own concept of reality (their
>meme set), and most if not all want to believe this to be closer to the
>absolute reality (the truth) than anybody else's. I find myself enjoying
>CoV because it's members are people who have embraced this concept (or
>meme complex) into their own meme set and therefor are willing to learn
>other peoples memes if this brings them closer to the truth.
>The problem everyone faces is how to be objective with their meme set
>since it is the mechanism through which we try to be objective, i.e.
>how to think about a meme without the memes that are active within that
>area of your meme set affecting you.
>Any "bible" is presented to its users as an ideal model for their meme
>set (it's memes claim to represent "the truth"). If CoV was to produce a
>"bible" I would insist on being open for peer review and any publishing
>being version numbered to emphasize the point that "the truth" is not
>yet known (and may never be) though we try to get closer with each
>evolution in our thinking.

Is't this simply a restatement of the scientific enterprise?

>from Craig
>You cannot learn the truth without unlearning the untruth
>If you believe you know the truth, I don't trust you, you would have to
>know everything.
>If you think you may know some of the truth I'm willing to reason with
Joe E. Dees
Poet, Pagan, Philosopher

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