Do you think Shakespeare used anything other than logic and reason to
communicate? Mozart? The Beatles? Are they liars?
Richard Brodie richard@brodietech.com http://www.brodietech.com/rbrodie/
Author, "Virus of the Mind: The New Science of the Meme"
http://www.brodietech.com/rbrodie/votm.htm
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Ok.. that is clearer and more in keeping with the principles of rational
I only find it alarming that with everything else we could be talking about
http://www.brodietech.com/rbrodie/meme.htm
From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com]On Behalf
Of carlw
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 11:21 PM
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: RE: virus: Why people cling to faith
From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com]On Behalf
Of Marie Foster
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 1999 12:34 AM
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: Re: virus: Why people cling to faith
speaking for myself. I accept that faith is a part of me as is scepticism.
Nor
do I have the talent to weigh it on any objective scale.
advancing, we always seem to come back to bashing others for what we
perceive to
be a weakness in thinking. Perhaps you see it as mentally unbalanced for a
person
to defy logic to remain principled. While I may see it as silly, I prefer
to
allow another the choice to live thier life as they see fit.
Sigh
That day that someone chooses to defy logic, you should cease discussion
with them, as discussion is not possible in the absense of logic. Choosing
to ignore reason means that you cannot have a meaningful discussion, as
words then no longer are vehicles for meaning. It is only through logic and
reason that we can establish meaning to ourselves, never mind the more
complicated issues of shared meanings through which communication occurs.
A person who abandon's logic and reason has no ability to hold discourse as
these are fundamental to discourse. So if a person who is communicating
claims to have abandoned logic and reason it can only mean that they are
liars. Communicating with liars can be useful in information and game
theory, but is seldom profitable in real life. As you know they are liars,
they will never convince you of anything. Suspecting that you know that they
are liars means that you will never convince them of anything. So you are
best wasting time and effort.
TheHermit
Be rational and just walk away. There are more important windmills to tilt
at....
Faith,n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without
knowledge, of things without parallel.
Ambrose Bierce The Enlarged Devil's Dictionary.