Same deal with Jesus except he was bi-sexual. He loved the Magdeline as well as John the youngest apostle often referred to as the "Disciple whom Jesus loved." How very Greek of Him.
Maggs
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"If someone says"I don't know if there's a hand here" he might be told
"Look closer"- This possibility of satisfying oneself is part of the
language game. Is one of its essential features."
On 17 Jan 1999, Ben Mack wrote:
> Mr Cash,
>
> I think this is a decent example: Plato. He was gay, so he wasn't a
> gene replicator, but he was a meme replicator. In The Symposium, he touches
> on the idea that he wouldn't procreate, but he said he would replicate
> through his ideas.
>
>
> N CASH wrote:
> >Your discussion of memes and culture is a fascinating one. Tell me, what
> >do you think about the selfish-meme/selfish-gene latching onto character
> >traits in individuals? What I mean is, could it be said that some
> >people, for whatever reason, are more likely to be "procreators" of
> >memes and by the same measure, uninterested or not likely to be
> >procreators of genes. Can we find any examples of meme-spreader's on a
> >huge scale who have, for social or psychological or even physiological
> >reasons, have been poor gene procreators. Hitler, for example... Can we
> >link any specific qualities in an individual that says they are more
> >likely to be one and not the other, or proportionately, more of one and
> >less of the other? Are the qualities which make an exceptional
> >meme-spreader somehow non-conducive to gene-spreading? Is the
> >intellectually driven person unlikely to engage so much in the physical
> >world? I am posing questions here, not giving a whole theory. Would be
> >glad to hear your ideas.
> >
> >NC
> >
> >--
> >"It may, afterall, be the bad habit of creative talents to invest
> >themselves in pathological extremes that yield remarkable insights but
> >no durable way of life for those who cannot translate their psychic
> >wounds into significant art or thought." Theodore Roszak
> >
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