Re: virus: kurzweil cuts the mustard

Robin Faichney (
Mon, 4 Jan 1999 20:09:13 +0000

In message <>, Joe E. Dees <> writes
>> Yes, folks, consciousness is a meme! :-)
>> --
>> Robin
>Is that a dagger I see before me? How should I know? I'm not
>conscious! Joe

In saying you're not conscious, you're depending just as heavily on the notion of objective consciousness, as if you were saying that you are conscious. It cuts both ways. We can't say that, objectively, we're conscious. Nor can we say that, objectively, that rock is not conscious. Nor that we are not, nor that the rock is. In entirely objective terms, "conscious" simply has no meaning, so cannot be used in *any* way. This makes absolutely no difference to ordinary, everyday usage, because it's only when philosophising that we wonder about "objective consciousness". Philosophy is a whole different language game.