>> I have never attacked religion.
>>
>The distinction between attacking faith and
>attacking religion I don't see. I mean, *I*
>don't equate them, but I surely thought you
>did. And it's certain that any Christian
Perhaps I'm not as close-minded as you would like to think :)
I don't see religion as necessarily based on faith or worship
or the supernatural. I see religion as any institution
(organization, meme-complex, superorganism) whose purpose
is to give meaning to the lives of its adherents.
And faith is certainly not confined to religion.
>would take your attacks on faith personally.
>And just a couple of days back you were
>complaining about that fundie minister
>who said you would go to hell for taking the
>name "lucifer" in vain. (!?!)
Because of his faith, not his religion. It was
frustrating only because nothing I could possibly
say could make him change his mind. His beliefs
were completely protected from my influence.
>> >religion with intelligent, educated people, you
>> >need to upgrade your concept of religion.
>> >And I see more of the latter than the former
>> >around here.
>>
>> How is my concept of religion different from what
>> you are saying?
>>
>Umm, I thought you were with Dawkins on this
>one? Religion = faith = memetic virus = evil.
>No?
No, religions are meme-complexes and not necessarily
evil. If all memes are memetic viruses, they aren't
necessarily evil either. Actually, when I said that
faith is a sin, I meant that it is a bad idea, not
that it is evil per se. Faith is a bad idea because
it is incompatible with pancritical rationalism.
-- David McFadzean david@lucifer.com Memetic Engineer http://www.lucifer.com/~david/ Church of Virus http://www.lucifer.com/virus/