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>Sodom wrote:
>>
>> Tim Rhodes wrote:
>> >
>> > On Fri, 17 Oct 1997, chardin wrote:
>> >
>> > > Prof. Tim wrote:
>> > > > If the prophecies were all wrong, and the future was not
"revealed"
>> > > > in the bible, and there was not Christ (this is hypothetical,
>> > > > remember), would you still be a Christian? Why or why not?
>> >
>> > > I could not possibly be a Christian as you hypothesize.
>> >
>> > Too bad. Your reasons for believing are the same as the ones you
say are
>> > the errors of science. You believe as a security blanket rather
than
>> > because it is the "right" way to live your life. That is sad.
There is
>> > no differnece between you and the scientists you deride. You just
have
>> > differnt colored blankets to hold as you suck your thumb in the
darkness.
>> >
>> > Very sad indeed.
>> >
>> > -Prof. Tim
>>
>> Geez Tim, you are on a warpath today. I do agree however with my
>> origianl comment a week and a half ago. Faith is based on fear of the
>> unknown. Whether it is deliberate or not. I would probably make a
good
>> Christian because I do think many of the things Christ is supposed to
>> have said are good. Love, compassion, affection, forgivness - all of
>> these are values I hold dear. But I like them because I see the
benefits
>> they bring and the emotional response my mind rewards me with, not
>> because someone told me to. If it weren't for the divine part, if
Jesus
>> were just a philosopher like Socrates, then I would probably convert.
>>
>> Sodom
>
>
>Why does faith = fear of the unknown grate on me so much!!! I think I
>will look it up in the Oxford English version when I am at the library.
>I have to pick up that book on consciousness and request Richard's
book.
>
>Sodom, this is not your problem, it is mine. I find faith a perfectly
>good word. Is it possible for us to agree that fear of the unknown =
>fear of the unknown (which I agree is not somehthing to be desired
while
>fear is needed as long as there are nuts out there :0)...) and faith =
>faith?
>
>I do not know if this will help, but it might cut down on the number of
>posts I am feeling compelled to make that do not seem to further the
>quest for the meme.
>
>Marie
>
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