> What is intent? Is it will to live, is it desire for desire,
> is it cooperative effort, is it a memetic pattern which "prefers" one
> adaptation over another? Or, do humans not have intent?
This has the makings of a whole new thread about it. (Prof Tim)
Prof Tim,
What I was asking is at what level does "conscienciousness" (intent, choice,
complexity, etc.) arrise? If at the level of humanity, then why not at the
level of genetics?
Brett
At 09:31 AM 8/21/97 -0700, you wrote:
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>On Wed, 20 Aug 1997, Brett Lane Robertson wrote:
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>> This is the crux of my argument: That all things are related; that we
>> cannot speak of genes having no intent and humans as having intent. Unless
>> you can say where intent arrises from, the discussion will not go beyond
>> this point.
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>How about consciousness. IMHO, intent arises out of consciousness.
>Without consciousness there are mechanisms that function and outcomes, but
>no "intent". Only form and function.
>
>> What is intent? Is it will to live, is it desire for desire,
>> is it cooperative effort, is it a memetic pattern which "prefers" one
>> adaptation over another? Or, do humans not have intent?
>
>This has the makings of a whole new thread about it.
>
>> I still say that
>> if the human can choose then there is choice at the level of the gene.
>>
>> If the carrot is food for humans, then there is nutritive substance in the
>> carrot; therefore, the entity which relates to seed as humans relate to
>> carrots MUST be able to use the carrot/seed in exactly the same way as
>> humans use the carrot/seed; for carrot or seed the nutritive value is
>> either there or it is not. It does not arrise magically!
>
>Okay, you're on! I'll eat a diet of just carrots and you eat a diet of
>just carrot seed and we'll see who lasts longer.
>
>The whole is more than just the sum of the parts, Brett!!! Don't forget
>that!
>
>-Prof. Tim
>
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