> kenpan@lurchinvault.com wrote:
>
> > Eric you loved the movie.
> >
> > That's great. I posted a scathing review to this list because I didn't
> > love it and I hope it hasn't deterred people from going to see it.
> > Siskel and Ebert both gave it a thumbs up. Those who are even marginally
> > interested in seeing it should not necessarily wait for the video as
> > many of the special effects sequences in the "machine" plotline are more
> > impressive on the big screen.
>
> Yes, go see the special effects in the theatre.
>
> But the real reason to see it is it's support for my Church.
>
> For people who have seen the movie (spoiler warning), my Church is
> *also* "the first step"... small steps, dear, small steps.
>
> My Church is about the realization that ultimatly *meaning* is
> *subjective*. That is, the objective sciences can never replace the
> subjective religions, and we are naive to think they can. I can't
> *prove* there is no God, just like Evelyn can't prove He exists. And
> that is becuase God is a *subjective* feeling in the heart of the
> beleiver. Like "love", it is something we try to express to each other,
> but ultimatly, any understanding of what the other is talking about must
> come from within yourself. (the most we can acheive is
> *intersubjective* agreement).
>
> The "first step" is this. No "evidence" is given in the movie becuase
> we must learn that evidence for *subjective* things must come from
> within... despite the avoidance on the womans part, it *IS* "faith" that
> allows us to transfer subjective experiences from person to person.
>
> There was only *one* word in the entire movie I would change. In the
> final scene, when "God's diplomat" is talking to the crowd, he sais "but
> our goal is one and the same: the pursuit of Truth"... no. Both pursue
> *meaning*. That was, after all, the subtitle of his book: "Losing
> faith: the search for meaning in the age of reason"
>
> But the parts of the movie I liked the most were the little things. The
> continual passing of the compass back and forth. The grains of sand --
> the contrast between the huge and the tiny.
>
> That, and the complex personality and life of the woman -- her
> insecurities are the exact problem both I and "God's diplomat" are out
> to fix. The pursuit of meaning in the age of reason.
>
> ERiC
>
> ... it's on my Church's "must see" list.
>
Mmm. I really liked the movie, and at the same time resent it. If
sort out that reaction, I'll let you know.
But I did really like the visual transitions, they were fun.
Eva