Re: virus: Re: Virus: Sociological Change

middletn@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com
Tue, 24 Dec 96 12:04:32 GMT


Drakir wrote:

I think I understand what you're getting at, but as usual, it all
comes down to language. Saying that there is a "lack" of rule is
open to interpretation/misinterpretation. It could be that the
rule is there, but the enforecement is non-exixsten, or there is
no rule at all. A subtle difference, is it important?

I think that it is, as although lack of rule and no rule are both
forms or anarchy, one is far more dangerous than the other. Having
rules/laws that are not enforced means that the people are riotus
enough to warrant such a situation. Meanwhile a state with no law
is open to whatever the people are like. If they are a docile people
then all well and good, but if they are not then the same situation
as before will occur, and (I'm going to say it again, sorry :)
government will spring up to defend the weaker ones.

The idea of having lack of rule, and misrule running in sync with
eachother is interesting. I find it hard to get my head round it,
and write it out, but I see how the concept could exist. Any
one eloquent enough out there to put it into words?

I'm afraid, though, that my definition of anarchy is different to
yours, Flaps, as I believe that true anarchy can never be attained
for any long period of time, as anarchy is the absence of state and
government, rule and coalitions, etc...

Welcome to the list, BTW :)

FLAPS: I CAN SEE WHAT YOU MEAN BUT I CAN ALSO SEE A NEW WAY IN WHICH ANARCHY COULD EXIST.

I CAN SEE THAT YOU CAN EITHER HAVE LACK OF RULE THROUGH THERE BEING NO ACTUAL RULES BUT YOU CAN ALSO SO HAVE LACK OF RULE BY NON-ENFORCEMENT. IF BOTH OF THESE SITUATIONS COULD EXIST SIDE BY SIDE ALONG WITH MISRULE THEN TRUE ANARCHY WOULD EXIST.
IN THIS SITUATION THE GOVERMENT ETC. WOULD HAVE NO MEANS TO SAVE THE WEAKER ONES, NO MATTER HOW DOCILE THE PEOPLE IN GENERAL ARE. THIS WOULD LEAD TO A BREAKDOWN IN GOVERMENT,RULES, AND COALITIONS. A FORM OF NATURAL SELECTION WOULD COMR INTO BEING TAKING PEOPLE BACK TO A VERY BASIC LEVEL. IF THERE WAS NO ORGANISATION THEN PEOPLES BASIC INSTINCTS WOULD COME INTO PLAY WHICH INVOLVE THINGS SUCH SURVIVE USING ANY MEANS POSSIBLE.
ta btw ;)