Whatever, either way, the 30% set up the state they want, and the other 70% set up
another.
>
> > Once such a systemn has been built, then the lawgiver is just a bloke who looks
> > objectively at the state, and proposes Laws that would better it. Yes, he gets paid,
> > but a bribe is not necessarity effective, because ultimately, if the people don't like
> > the law, then it won't get passed.
>
> Then I ask again; why is he there?
I thought that it was a pretty good idea myself! Ask Jean-Jaques Rousseau, in his
publication "The Social Contract". Basically: Political Theory, Liberalist
Totalitarianism. It's a damn good read if nothing else :)
>
> > No, but if you don't, you'll have to ensure that there are enough people to your
> > method of thinking who'll also decide not to adopt a law. And there's the strengh
> > in it: You don't like it - you don't accept it. Now isn't that a better idea?
>
> And if 50% want the law and 50% don't?
more than a simple majority is needed to pass a law, so it would have to be altered
in such a situation. I could go on for hours about this, but it's not directly
relevant. If anyone wants a complete run down on "General Will", or people's
involvement in democracy, then just ask and I'll do it.
> > Depends on whether Societies needs change. Would they change, or would the
> > slave trade have continued for all eternity if someone hadn't thought that
> > it ought to be stopped?
>
> I would guess it'd continue. What else would have stopped it?
> Spontaneous combustion? ;)
Maybe someone would have realised that the slave trade was a bad idea, and just
stopped dealing in slaves. Others would see the effect and follow suit.
No persuasion or campaigning involved.
>
> Towards the conversion of sensible questions into pedantism ;)
>
> Seriously though, I'm not being obtuse for the sake of it. I honestly
> can't progress with parts of this discussion until I'm sure we're
> talking about the same things.
That's Ok, it's your right!
Anyway, I'm going to post again in a minute, and attempt to clear the whole mess up,
and produce a tidier littel package.
(I think I'll fail though ;)
Towards my McVities Giant Hob-Nob Buiscuit .....
Drakir
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Richard Jones
jonesr@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com
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"We are the New Breed,
We are the Future."
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