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Take care. -KMO

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Subject: memetic ancestry of the swastika
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From: kmoprime@juno.com (KMO prime)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:45:49 EDT

A symbol which looks a lot like a swastika exists as hindu iconography.
I also saw that same symbol in many Buddhist temples in Japan. I don't
know this for sure, but I suspect that the symbol is there because it was
a Hindu symbol which got transferred to China and later to Korea and
Japan in that great memetic vehicle (pun intended), Buddhism.

I'm not claiming that Germanic peoples didn't use a similar symbol to
represent the sun. We may have a case of independent but parallel
memetic evolution on our hands, or it could be that all of the varieties
of swastika have a common ancestor. Memes are known for their ability to
get around. It's hard to say for sure because memetic hosts, upon being
infected with a new meme, tend to describe the experience of one in which
they, the infected host, came up with, i.e. created, an idea. Because
they don't see themselves as memetic vectors, they don't tend to mention
the previous vector from whom they contracted the infection.

Take care. -KMO

On Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:16:27 -0600 noctem@centuryinter.net writes:
>>*Hitler (the swastika is a symbol of God).
>
> Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong! First, Hitler's version of the
>swastika is reversed and rotated 45 degrees. Second, it was a Germanic
>symbol for the sun, not God.
> Brush up on your religion, man....
>
> Toward the accumulation of useful information,
> Noctem
>

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