Re: Manifest Science (was: RE: virus: Cow)

Brett Robertson (
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*Technology* is the use of "tools" to affect change. "Language" may be a *tool* for change. However, the worldview which creates the concepts by which the tools are developed is such that the tools themselves (cogs, wheels, wrenches) are merely the objective manifestations of the technology; thus, technology comes to imply a "way of doing" (or being) and ultimately "the way it is".

I disagree that freedom is "not" a technology. Freedom IS a driving force and specialization is one of its "products". Specialization itself seems a special case of technology (being a tool by which the technology of freedom manifests objective examples that accomplishes its "purpose"*).

Thus, it appears that your idea of a (subjective?) "concept" and my idea of an (objective) *concept* are different (mine implying a natural arrangement of objects which define a force for change and yours, perhaps, being defined by agreement and compromise regarding this arrangement).

**purpose* implying merely that objects which describe a "concept" according to their natural organization are organized thus by these characteristics in a way that they also describe a force by which these characteristics are expressed in line with specifiable effects

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> Dan,
> How do you make a distinction between the "products" of technology and
> the driving force which creates the products?
> Isn't freedom a technology (for example)? What products does it create
> and how are these products "of a different sort"?
> I could also ask: "Isn't medicine a technology?". Though, by the first
> example, I would like to make the point that while the technology of
> medicine MAY be defined by the products, the example which freedom
> suggests may illustrate that a technology doesn't even HAVE to be
> product oriented (and from there we might further distinguish the
> product from the technology-- as in the medicine example [or the
> science example]... assuming that this distinction is meaningful at
> all).
Language is that with which people communicatively mediate their relationships between themselves; technology is that with which people manipulatively or perceptually madiate their relationships with the material world. Freedom is not a technology; it is a concept. Wheels, levers, wedges, computers, bombs, clothes, microscopes, rockets, cars, etc. are examples of technology. Technology is material and made.
> Brett Lane Robertson
> Indiana, USA
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