Re: virus: Cow

psypher (
Sat, 22 May 1999 12:32:16 -0400 (EDT)

>>what basis do you have for judging it to be 'wrong'? far as I have seen in this forum, ethical statements
[right/wrong, good/bad] are judged to be subjective. Your quote is as follows:

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. It's wrong. Period.

Make it wrong. Do not let it pass.

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...if you wish to demonstrate how this is an objective statement,
please do so. I would be sincerely interested.

> More to the point, since _I_ have _not_ made _any_ subjective > statements- what basis do you have for judging it to be 'fun'?

...en error has crept into our exchange, this is partly my fault and
I thank Dan for pointing it out at (Fri, 21 May 1999 22:59:35 -0700).

...having dug through the archives to find the relevant post, I
hereby reproduce it:

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psypher (
Tue, 18 May 1999 21:22:02 -0400 (EDT)
In reply to: James Veverka

> Cow tastes good. It has for millions of years.

rape feels good. It has for millions of years.

[perspective matters]

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...behaviourally, actions become likely because they are rewarded in
some way. This reward may take the form of an increase in reward [something which 'feels good'] or, negatively, by the reduction in some condition which 'feels bad' [the process of relief being a corresponding experience which 'feels good'].
...rape, as a behaviour, has taken place throughout humyn history and
thus can be said to 'feel good' to those persons who practice it.

...The source of our misunderstanding may be the mistaken impression
that my reference was to the party victimized in an act of rape. If this is the case, then you have misinterpreted my analogy, which is understandable withinin the constraints of this medium. intention was to illustrate that rape feels good *to the
rapist* just as meat tastes good *to the person eating it*. The position of the person being raped and the position of the entity being consumed are analogous in that their existence as entities worthy of moral consideration is denied so that another entity may indulge themselves. the system of Kantian ethics they are being viewed as means,
not ends.

...I did not mean to imply that rape feels good to the person being
raped. I had assumed that the structure of my analogy was clear, apparently it was not as clear as I had hoped.

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