Re: virus: maxims and ground rules

Tim Rhodes (
Tue, 11 May 1999 20:48:21 -0700

I was about to to send this and then I read your next post, TheHermit. The one where you said:

> But the point I was trying very
> hard to make, and think I succeeded in making, is that, when dealing with
> fundamental absolutes, that even if you remove the frame of reference,
> they either remain absolutes or become meaningless or acquire some new
> meaning. They do not become "suppositions".

So, despite the fact that I now understand that your beef is with the "supposition" part of it rather than the contexual side, I send on the following--now meaningless--text: -Prof. Tim

TheHermit wrote:

>Blue = 631.58THz

Sorry, but don't bow too low--you kinda blew it again.

Hz is an abbreviation for Hertz (first level of context, BTW) and is the measure the number of oscillations per second (another level of context) used in measuring the frequency of a waveform (again, necessary contextual information). Remember, I'd asked you to:

>> make the same statement, with the same truth value, without a
>> reference to waveforms or length.

You did both. (Albeit, you did get around length by translating it into frequency--which was a cute trick I'll grant you.) But still, stripped of the context of waves and waveforms your statement is as meaningful and true as this one:

"Screidlybop=twillquiap Nandu-flectoptsyies"

So try again, my dear fliberibdy Ptandiwiquix! Only this time REALLY try and do it without referencing something else.

(That is, if you can--it'll be a lot harder to extricate yourself from a context you're well accustomed to using than you might at first think. It's like suddenly finding yourself without air and wondering why its so hard to breathe.)

-Prof. Tim