virus: Is it a He? Is it a She? Is it a chunk of flying rubber

Zloduska (
Mon, 03 May 1999 17:26:46 -0500

Wade wrote:

>On 05/03/99 17:04 the inimitable Tim Rhodes made this comment and once
>again struck his hot type straight into the crux of the matter-

And you say you're not down with the filthy minds of today? I don't know about the rest of you, but my heart was sure beating faster when I read this introduction. ;-)

>All society, it sometimes seems to me, is a continuing experiment to
>control adolescence. What we are _then_, where we go, who we see, what we
>read- well, I for one know that the prohibition against some things drove
>me in their direction faster than a supercharged '57 Chevy. Of course,
>since I did not even _know_ about homosexuality until I was well past
>adolescence (out of sight and totally out of mind...), it had no charm
>for me. Never had the chance. Different times.

See, and the result of you having your "innocence" was that many homosexuals were forced to stay in the closet and be miserable. If not, they were given "treatment", which was actually various forms of physical and mental torture. But I think you already knew that. As for your 'ignorance' about homosexuality, I thought studies showed that most kids have some sort of 'homosexual experience' before they become teenagers? Sure, in the form of healthy and ordinary "play", but nevertheless that kind of experience. Either way, they are not going to just weed out homosexuality; I for one think it's more common than most people think. I'm not saying you were abnormal in any way for *not* knowing about it. Don't worry, no one here is forcing the nipple clamps on you just yet Wade... but be wary of your fellow CoVers.

>What _are_ the verboten, the whispered, the clandestine, things these
>days? Hell, the Prez is getting blown at work.... What is _sex_ these

People do really, really weird things to get their rocks off. (Squid-coitus, anyone?) I think the surprising things I have discovered on the Internet are only the tip of the iceberg. As soon as I finish my page of misc. web links, I'll let you know. I don't know, they are quite scary. I wouldn't want you to go into cardiac arrest.

>Kristy- is the ultimate subversion these days to be formless?
>Is yin-yang now some lump of grey?
>Albeit shiny, and new...?

No, I wouldn't say to be "formless". 'Formless' and 'grey' have bad connotations, such as "uncreative" and "dull". Much like modern music styles and genres have progressed, fashion and sexuality seems to be moving towards the trend of mixing different flavors, textures, visuals, etc. to create something that is more interesting (although not necessarily "better") and stimulating. Like rock music, you will always find an audience that loves the new creation. I personally find excitement in ambiguity. For me, it's thumbing my nose at people who oppress others with their conventional stereotypes of gender. As you said, (sort of) there is a movement of clueless, tyrannical adults and crotchety old politicians in this country to control "adolescence" and make everyone conform into a certain mold of hetero-sexual, God-fearing, Celine Dion-listening, ridiculously patriotic sheep. Also, there is a counter-movement against that, of people who want DIVERSITY and the freedom to be different. By resisting to conform to their standards, in effect you are saying "fuck you", and rightfully so.

I think the point of being "formless" is not to blend in, but to stand out! To experiment with one's sexuality and try new things, and most importantly to have FUN with all the possiblities there are. After all, am I the only one that enjoys a good mind-fuck every now and then? (To either cause one or react.) Luckily, you will never cancel out both extremes: the male, the female; the yin and yang; black and white. But what harm can come of blurring the edges and testing the boundaries?

wondering when I became the CoV resident Dr. Ruth-less(?), ~kjs