In a message dated 5/2/99 7:28:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, carlw@hermit.net writes:
> This is very much the way Socrates himself apologized in the death scene
> (read it at http://san.beck.org/Phaedo.html#1 ). Also silly (IMO) but
> consistent with his beliefs.
>
> Hermit
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-virus@lucifer.com
> > [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com]On Behalf
> > Of Brett Robertson
> > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 1999 9:16 PM
> > To: virus@lucifer.com
> > Subject: Re: virus: Looking for blame in all the wrong places
> >
> > So, as death is necessary for a dualistic philosopher, and as
> > exile from
> > the group is an option which suggests independence (and
> > independence is
> > materialistic-- or supports a philosophy of independent OBJECTIVE
> > existence); so perhaps, the environment conspired to give Socrates the
> > end he required to fulfill his own prophecy (choosing suicide rather
> > than social exclusion for him since Socrates' own existence would be
> > contingent on humanistic/ subjective confirmation according to his own
> > life-story).
Possibly, Socrates painted himself into a corner.
Irena
>