RE: virus: Will

carlw (
Fri, 19 Mar 1999 12:22:44 -0600

Certainly from the time of Eusebius Pamphilius* and probably prior to him, it has been known that Christians have justified telling lies, burning books and generally rewriting history in an attempt to make themselves look less unattractive by suggesting that god likes it... Even in their Bible, Paul says "For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?" (Romans 3:7) If this were memetic, then more people would know about it and acknowledge it. Of course, the numbers of people who proposed ideas like this and ended up starring as fuel at an auto-da-fe might have something to do with its non-propagation...


As men's prayers are a disease of the will, so are their creeds a disease of the intellect. - Ralph Waldo Emerson, Self-Reliance (1841)

*I have repeated whatever may rebound to the glory, and suppresed all that could tend to the disgrace, of our religion. [Eusebius, early Church Father and "Christian Historian" (what an oxymoron), in _Praeparatio Evangelica_, chapter 31, book 12]

> -----Original Message-----
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> Of Jim
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> Subject: Re: virus: Will
> Richard wrote:
> >And not all information is a meme. Memes are pieces of
> information in a
> mind
> >whose existence influences events such that more copies of
> themselves get
> >created in other minds.
> I have been reading and not participating for a wile and I
> found this idea
> intriguing. I have not been able to come up with a piece of
> information that
> is not meme based. Would you please supply one.
> Thanks for your help
> Jim