Re: virus: materialism and other worldviews

Robin Faichney (
Fri, 19 Feb 1999 14:40:05 +0000

In message <004f01be5b9f$4b69b8a0$>, David McFadzean <> writes
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robin Faichney <>
>Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 1:58 PM
>>...a bit sharper. I'd say, you cannot simultaneously be a
>>materialist, and a realist about consciousness, because
>>consciousness is not a material thing.
>I'll accept that. So can an "emergent materialist" operate as
>a social animal with one worldview?

Sorry, I don't go for "emergent materialism". As far as I know, it talks about self-awareness in terms of feedback and recursion, but fails to account for simple awareness. There is not, and I say cannot be, a materialist explanation of that, so if a materialist believes in it, they're being inconsistent.

>What exactly constitutes a single worldview? Are two models
>that happen to be non-inconsistent one or two worldviews?

I don't think there's a definitive answer to that, but we were talking about inconsistent views, weren't we?

>The reason I ask is I was in a presentation today that was
>talking about Belbin's model of roles in an organizational
>team (shaper, chairman, innovator, worker, finisher, etc)
>and this was related to the Myers-Briggs personality types.
>Two distinctly different models of human personalities, but
>not inconsistent. One worldview or two?