In a message dated 1/26/99 8:37:43 AM Central Standard Time, ncashen@klondyke.net writes:
<< SG-
Critical thinking and logic do not encompass everything; we prove this
with every SCHRITT or mistake science/philosophy makes. Nobody will like
this here, because it is a declaration of acceptance of the illogical.
But I guess I'll have to just take the heat or be ignored. Either one
suits me.
>>
Boy, you are really setting yourself up to play a martyr role. Where did you learn that? I hope you enjoy it. You can embrace the illogical if you like. It doesn't bother me any way. Critical thinking is a process, not a conclusion. It's not so important that people make mistakes, its that they can correct them. You confuse evolutionary processes as nonsensical processes. That people make mistakes proves nothing.
>>Intuition tells us things that don't leave us with a "leg to stand on"
all the time. Faith does not makes sense, but where would we be if
nobody every dared to be stupid enough to have it? My suggestion is that
you try to understand what this Jesus phenomenon represents, what it
might mean to you personally. And do not allow anyone to pull it away
from you, because then you will never have the chance to wrestle with it
and find an outcome that you can believe in.<<
My intuition tells me that you are being less than sincere. What makes you
think that anyone can "pull it away" from him? I think you are suggesting
that an impossible thing is in fact possible, namely that somehow S.G. can be
involuntarily "deprived" of his experience. If he wants to believe what he
has experienced as being actually real there is nothing that anyone can do
about that. If he want to discount what he has experienced as a rationally
explainable phenomenon due to the fatigue, stress, and hunger which he has
cited here, there is nothing that anyone can do about that either. He is free
to come to his own conclusions about this, regardless of what we say. Does it
bother you that he is?? I think it does. I have no problem with it
regardless of the conclusion that he comes to.
He wanted to talk and so I responded. He doesn't have to listen. It seems
that he is well aware of the crowd that is on this list.
Of course he could always be posing as a wind up to an evangelistic
performance. Right now it doesn't look that way, but if he is, I am
-Jake