RE: virus: my heart

David Leeper (DLEEPER@sybase.com)
Fri, 27 Oct 1995 15:03:39 -0600


Virus,

My first posting to Virus. This is a response to the posting appended to
the bottom of this mail message.

> God has revealed himself through the scriptures
> and through the world
>
> he is begging you to recognize him

If this is true, why do you need to send this e-mail? Couldn't an
omnipotent God send his own e-mail.

>if you think that this life is all you will get
>it is all you will get

What's wrong with this life. And what's so great about having to spend an
eternity with a bunch of grinning Christians?

>and then you will banished from God forever
>because you refused to love him

Fine.

>the Bible is our tool
>we can use it for good or evil
>
>this is what free will is about

Everything is a tool, even God. We use tools as we see fit. This is what
free will is about.

>but then you say
>what about all the misery, all the pain
>how does he allow this
>
>judge lest ye be judged

Don't dodge the question. What about pain? It makes no sense from the
Christian point of view (as I understand it). If God is omnipitent and
loves his creation, why is there _so much_ pain? From an Evolutionist point
of view, the question doesn't even come up: There is no plan.

>this is what Jesus does
>He takes over where we fail
>and our pitiful intellects fail to rise to perfection

Every year Christians say the world is getting worse and worse. Even if
there is a Jesus in the Christian sense of the word, he's a failure, not an
example of perfection.

That's all I have to say about that.

Dave Leeper
dleeper@sybase.com

"The power of Reason is that it frees us from the blinders of Religion." -
Dave Leeper
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From: virus-owner
To: virus
Subject: virus: my heart
Date: Tuesday, October 24, 1995 5:56PM

>X-POP3-Rcpt: luree@island
>Return-Path: <milanaik@phoenix.Princeton.EDU>
>From: "David A. Milanaik" <milanaik@phoenix.Princeton.EDU>
>Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 14:23:14 -0400
>To: luree@islandnet.com
>Subject: my heart
>
>
> I used to be in your position.
>
> My heart cries out to your plight-
>
> you are so overly objective that you cannot see the forest
> through the trees
>
> to use a hackneyed expression
>
> God has revealed himself through the scriptures
> and through the world
>
> he is begging you to recognize him
>
>if you think that this life is all you will get
>it is all you will get
>
>and then you will banished from God forever
>because you refused to love him
>
>
>as for the atrocities that have come from those who use the Lord's name in
>vain
>
>what can I say about these things
>
>the crusades, ill treatment of women, the inquisition
>
>think of this way
>guns can either be used for target practice
>harmless fun
>
>or to kill things
>
>the Bible is our tool
>we can use it for good or evil
>
>this is what free will is about
>
>as for Homosexuailty
>did you ever read Romans 1:27
>
>I used to be very open to homosexuality
>until I read this passage
>
>I thought do you own thing, in your own privacy
>right?
>
>but I hate to get graphic
>
>but if you study biology
>you will see that the penis fits perfectly inside of the vagina
>it is divine
>
>the penis is not meant for the anus
>
>think about it
>
>
>but then you say
>what about all the misery, all the pain
>how does he allow this
>
>judge lest ye be judged
>do the best you can
>and let God take care of His creation
>
>this is what Jesus does
>He takes over where we fail
>and our pitiful intellects fail to rise to perfection
>
>God bless you
>all yours
>David Abram Milanaik
>
>
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