To the WEB master, Erik and all of you, This was the first time I responded to anything on the n-sf list. I was under the mistaken impression that the e-mail address I'd sent my correspondence to was the address of the WEBmaster for n-sf. I have since found out, as you and others already knew, that the WEB master was not in fact responsible for the spamming. If I'd known either one of these things the correspondence never would have been sent. I have forwarded the WEBmaster my apologies and now extend them to all you.(With the exeption of the responsible party spamming us all). This is the last you'll hear from me on this subject. Thanks
James Lord
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>From: "Erik Steiner" <esteiner@leland.Stanford.EDU>
>To: "James Lord" <enkis@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: n-sf: Increase your website traffic dramatically!
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>Hi James -
>
>I am completely unrelated to whoever it this managing this list, but I
>thought it worthwhile to point a couple of things out to you -
>1) When you respond to such spam and cc: the entire list, you are
>propagating spam yourself and increasing the quantity of shit in other
>people's mailboxes. (notice how I only respond to you)
>2) Most likely, the list owner did not sell the list, which is probably
>quite worthless being that we're a bunch of eclectics interested in an
>exotic topic (unless the mailing happened to be, say, nano-specific,
which
>it is most obviously not...) - these lists can be grabbed from public
>spaces - or by anyone who happens to subscribed; has been the case
since the
>dawn of the Internet (1969!! NOT a new phenomenon...)
>3) Easiest way to deal with shit is to delete it on sight - you see the
>title, you see who sent it, you don't care - you delete!!!
>
>Thanks for your attention and I hope this has been helpful in bringing
you
>on board!
>
>Erik
>
>"Experience is one thing you can't get for nothing." (Oscar Wilde)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: James Lord <enkis@hotmail.com>
>To: n-sf@lucifer.com <n-sf@lucifer.com>
>Date: Monday, October 05, 1998 9:51 AM
>Subject: Re: n-sf: Increase your website traffic dramatically!
>
>
>>
>>
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>>>From: tlmjc@msn.com
>>>To: website@traffic
>>>Subject: n-sf: Increase your website traffic dramatically!
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>>>Date: 5 Oct 1998 00:10:06 -0700
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>>>
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>>>
>>Hello,
>>I signed up for your e-mail list to get information on nanotechnology
in
>>fiction and other media. I'm sorry your hard up enough now to sell
your
>>list info to junk mail advertisers and spammers and I hope for your
sake
>>your financial situation improves in the near future. However, I do
not
>>appreciate my mailbox being filled with this shit.
>>Stop mailing it out to me or I'll remove myself from you little list.
>>Thanks
>>
>>James
>>
>>
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